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May 12, 2026

Souls Before Roles: A deep dive on Leadership, Intentionality, and the Future of Nonprofits

Lon Wong is a tech founder turned nonprofit leader turned consultant who has been banging the drum of 'more human' for two decades. Lon joins Graeme to explore what it looks like for organizations to become more intentional and more connected in a season of rapid change. They discuss the epidemic of staff disengagement, the loss of institutional trust, why leaders are stuck in reactive triage mode, and the counterintuitive power of pausing when everything feels urgent. Lon's framework β€” 'souls before roles' β€” is one you'll carry with you long after the episode ends. Block off one hour this week for uninterrupted strategic reflection β€” no agenda, no deliverables β€” just space to think about where your organization is really headed.

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